Posts by Open mind

recently had a discussion with a surgeon who said jw parents "usually" (her word, not mine) privately say they will take blood if the provider gets a court order.. yet another person, with no connection to dubs and no motive to make this up, saying this same thing.

interesting.. i'm surprised the thought police have not come out with an article saying jehoopla reads the hearts and judges as bloodguilty those who are relieved when forced to take blood..

Open mind

Ahhh.... Got it.

Thanks rebel8.

I would imagine we're talking about situations where the child needs blood soon, but not necessarily immediately. My understanding is that, at least in most of the U.S., if a child needs an emergency transfusion due to being in an automible accident, they get it. Now. The squawking of their cult-member parents is just an annoying bit of background noise in the ER.

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"Only if you get a court order." wink, wink

by rebel8 in

recently had a discussion with a surgeon who said jw parents "usually" (her word, not mine) privately say they will take blood if the provider gets a court order.. yet another person, with no connection to dubs and no motive to make this up, saying this same thing.

interesting.. i'm surprised the thought police have not come out with an article saying jehoopla reads the hearts and judges as bloodguilty those who are relieved when forced to take blood..

Open mind

rebel8: "Recently had a discussion with a surgeon who said jw parents "usually" (her word, not mine) privately say they will take blood if the provider gets a court order."

I think I must be missing something here. I've been told by several people (some JWs, some not) who work in and around Emergency medicine that many ERs have access to judges, 24/7, who are willing to issue court orders so that JW kids receive life-saving blood transfusions.

Once a court order is issued, it doesn't matter whether the JW parents are willing to "take" blood or not, the kid's going to get it. In fact, if the JW parents continue to raise a big stink once the court order has been issued, they look extra righteous to whatever HLC vultures happen to be lurking.

Could you please clarify what exactly the JW parents in this kind of situation are agreeing to?

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San Fran apostabeerfest NOW

by besty in

jw
friends

who's in?

i'm staying near chinatown until friday.. .

Open mind

I'll be sending you a PM warning against the dangers of immoderate use of alcohol.

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JW Witnessing Trolleys. To approach or ignore what is your preference and why?

by KateWild in

i saw two brothers this morning next to the main train station in liverpool city centre this morning.

they were not actively approaching anyone.

what i found strange was that they were from a cong that has different territory, so i don't know why they were there.. anyway i knew them both, and they know i was df'd, i was in my car and couldn't park up for a chat, but i did beep and wave to them as i drove passed and they waved back.

Open mind

Heaven: "I think they haven't arrived in full force in Canada yet."

Well, maybe not full force, but they were parked across the street from a Toronto sex toy shop last October.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/social/humour/265399/1/Perfect-spot-for-street-preaching

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Is my clinging on to a belief in a Creator doing me any harm?

by KateWild in

i use the word clinging, as i feel that is what i am doing.

as far as my knowledge of science, namely chemistry is concerned, i am satisfied there is evidence of a creator.

i am happy to believe this.

Open mind

to Data-Dog on the "Modern Jesus" song!!

Well worth a listen while reading the lyrics!

(Adding "liars" and "choirs" to my list of rhyming words.)

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My fading files volume III

by Jon Preston in

well its been a while since my doubts were first realized.

ive been through hell mentally, but no where near what some on this site and those lurking have been through.

i got lucky, if you believe in that sort of thing.

Open mind

Beautifully said!

(except for the salvation part, but that's just me)

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Did You Go To The Memorial?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i didn't and i don't care about it..

Open mind

It's only about 7:37 pm on the U.S. East Coast. If you hurry you can still make a low-attendance 9 o'clock show!

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A suggestion for Fading Dubs. STOP SINGING!!!

by DATA-DOG in

whether or not you realize it [ many of you do ], words have power.

think of the power of the human voice.

think of a beautiful song, or a symphony.

Open mind

Here are a couple of alternative ideas re: "Amen" and the singing of WT anthems.

1. Amen. Substitute it with "Gay men". Jack up your volume commensurate with the occasion and the audience. Have fun!

2. Singing. I decided to try singing with my best Elvis impersonation regardless of the song. And, just like "gay men" above, I would adjust my volume depending on who was around.

Hey, it helped pass the time.

None of us attend anymore and I'll probably be the only one attending the Memorial this year.

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